Comments on: 2013 Hammock Camping Resolutions (Bucket List) https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/ Hammock tips, illustrations, and reviews. Thu, 06 Jun 2013 02:26:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Derek Hansen Becomes GG Trial Ambassador - Brian's Backpacking Blog https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6587 Thu, 06 Jun 2013 02:26:58 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6587 […] can find out more about Derek and his book via his website, blog, and even follow him on Twitter (@TheUltimateHang). Welcome to the Gossamer Gear TA family […]

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By: Derek https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6586 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:07:40 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6586 In reply to pinoakroad.

No trip report online, but I’m happy to share some details and tips here. First and foremost, hammocks are welcome and very popular in Havasupai. Just be sure to bring tree straps to conserve the resources there.

From the trailhead to the town is 8 miles beginning with a lot of switchbacks and then opening into a wash. Very little tree cover until you get to town. From town it is another two miles to camp, but you’ll be following the river and lush vegitation. For some people, the mileage isn’t an issue, but the sandy trail, heat, and sun are. My wife’s group included a lot of inexperienced youth and they averaged about 1 mile per hour! Most hikers average at least 2 MPH. If you know your own average hike speed you can calculate your trip time and determine what resources you’ll need.

My wife’s group packed several gallons of water and cached it along the trail for the hike out. They ended up not needing it but it was a good fail safe. Most people recommend hiking early in the morning or late at night to avoid the heat. The springtime might no be so bad, but it is still an open trail with a lot of direct sun.

My wife hiked in sandals–not the open-toe river sandal, but some quality hiking sandal, providing excellent foot coverage but maximum ventilation. Even light trail runners would be good. Most of her group wore stiff backpacking boots with high ankle support and were miserable. My wife was the only one without blisters yet they asked her how she could stand hiking in sandals. Of course, I mention this just as an example, not a prescription. My wife was also outfit with an ultralight kit so there were other factors in her favor.

My wife’s group also paid to have the mules pack their gear out, so they only carried water and snacks, and still averaged only a mile per hour, or less, coming out.

For me, hiking that slow would be tantamount to torture.

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By: pinoakroad https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6585 Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:07:15 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6585 Hi. Some friends and I are headed to Havasupai this spring
for a backpack week. Would you wife happen to have a trip report or
tips/comments from her trip? thanks.

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By: Derek https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6584 Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:15:23 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6584 In reply to Zach Anspach.

Zach, thanks for the great information. Do you have a resource that mentions hammocks are banned? Are there notices at the campgrounds? We’ve been working with the rangers over the past few months and we’re hoping to get some concrete intel on hanging in the canyon.

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By: Zach Anspach https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6583 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:50:06 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6583 Just a heads up on the Canyon. I did six days on the Tonto East trail in June 2012 and left my hammock behind for lack of confirmation on whether or not it would be dead weight. Hanging is not allowed at indian Gardens or Phantom Ranch (for protection of resources), and though I couldn’t find it on paper I took that to mean that hammocks were out throughout the park. As seems reasonable in retrospect, the established camps you’ll be staying in are centered around fresh water availability which means trees of some variety. I never lacked the ability in six nights to hang a hammock, and I never saw a ranger who would have taken me to task, but it isn’t allowed. That being said I only took half of an ultralight pad, a silk bag liner (no bag), and a set of smartwool midweight thermals and did fine. I used a head net to be sure, but there were remarkably few insects. Good luck on the trip. Sleeping on the rocks builds character. I’d be happy to share some advice if you like. I went in at 13lb (less food and water), ran an average of 12 miles a day, and came out 12 lb lighter in the body in spite of a 2800 cal/day high carb/protein diet. I’m hooked and will go back.

Cheers!

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By: Derek https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6582 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:21:16 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6582 In reply to Glen K Van Peski.

I’ll let you know — I’d certainly love to tag along, so I’ll keep in touch. The lack of trees won’t stop me from Paria; I’m already planning to either tarp tent (e.g., hammock bivvy), or bring a lightweight stand, depending on the outcome of my research and trip planning.

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By: Glen K Van Peski https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6581 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:12:15 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6581 In reply to Derek.

That would be fun, although it’s not solely my trip, looking like a group of four. You’ll have to get your own permit, but email me glen(at)gossamergear(dot)com, I can keep you in the loop as our planning progresses so if there’s a way for our paths to cross we can make that happen. Of course, we won’t be looking for sites with trees… 🙂

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By: Derek https://theultimatehang.com/2013/01/07/2013-hammock-camping-resolutions-bucket-list/#comment-6580 Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:57:29 +0000 https://theultimatehang.com/?p=748#comment-6580 In reply to Glen K Van Peski.

Thanks Glen! I noticed Paria was on your list for 2013 — I’ll pencil in those dates, if you don’t mind me tagging along 🙂

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